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| Raphael, The School of Athens |
“I Know, Because the Caged Bird Sings: Plato’s Theaetetus.”
Part Two.
Script
for podcast (aired Feb 28 2011) by Peter Adamson
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| Raphael's Plato |
‘“Now, I know what you’re thinking: this will be
easy. Just point to a thermometer, which tells us an objective fact about how
cold the air is. But not so fast. Firstly, Protagoras can agree with your kids
that whatever the thermometer says, it’s up to each of us to say whether it is
cold or warm for us. Secondly, he can point out that the thermometer is itself
something you perceive. If it seems to you that the thermometer reads, say, 30
degrees, then it’s true for you that the thermometer
reads 30 degrees. It’s true for you simply because you perceive it to be the
case. To insist on there being an absolute truth about the reading of the
thermometer is to assume that there is a truth independent of any perceiver,
and that’s what Protagoras denies: man is the measure of all things, right?
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| Socrates |
“But Socrates has a couple of other tricks up
his sleeve. He starts with abuse: wouldn’t it be just as true to say that a pig
or a baboon is the measure of all things? Abuse is always satisfying, of
course, but this argument doesn’t carry much weight. Fortunately he has more
philosophically satisfying points to make too. For instance, on this “man is the
measure” doctrine, there’d be no point consulting experts: why pay to go to the
doctor if you are just as good a measure as the doctor is? If it seems to you
that taking aspirin will cure that nasty bout of appendicitis, then it’s true
for you! This sounds like a theory that will reduce the life expectancy of its
adherents - reason enough to reject it. Closely related is an objection about
predicting the future: if I expect to recover from my illness, then it will be
true for me that I will recover; if it then later seems to me that I’m still
sick, then it will seem to me that I have not recovered, and so it will be true
for me that I didn’t recover. It’s hard to see how both of these could be the
case.
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“But Socrates’ most interesting objection
illustrates a classic, perennially useful philosophical maneuver. Whenever
you’re presented with a bold new theory – especially a skeptical theory – ask
whether the theory could be true on its own terms. For example, if someone says
that nothing is true, you can ask him whether this claim is itself true. Or if
someone says that language is meaningless, you can ask him how he is able to
convey this idea in a sentence. In the same way, Socrates suggests that
Protagoras’ relativism doctrine is self-refuting. For, even if Protagoras
agrees with the doctrine, Socrates does not. Thus it will be true for
Socrates
that Protagoras’ doctrine is false. Indeed, since this follows from Protagoras’
doctrine, it will even be true for
Protagoras
that for Socrates the doctrine is false.
Thus Protagoras is bound by his own doctrine to admit that his doctrine is
false. But maybe this trick is a bit too tricky: even if Protagoras has to
admit that the doctrine is false for Socrates, he doesn’t have to
admit that it’s false in itself or really false. Remember,
according to him, there’s no such thing as something’s just really being false
or true. There is only something’s being false or true to you, to me, to
Socrates.
“Before we get any dizzier, let’s leave
relativism behind and move on to another major theme of this dialogue: the
possibility of false belief. This theme arises when Theaetetus accepts that
knowledge is not after all perception, and makes another suggestion. Perhaps
knowledge is having a true belief. After all, when I know something I have a
belief about it, and obviously it can’t be a false belief. So why not say I
know something when I have a true belief about it? All well and good, says
Socrates, but if we want to uphold this definition we need to understand how it
could be that some beliefs are true, and others false. And here we will run
afoul of those pesky sophists again. Some sophists suggested that it is
impossible to say or believe anything false - in which case everything is just
a matter of persuasion. This challenge appears in several Platonic dialogues;
we’ve already seen it arising in the Euthydemus. But the Theaetetus is again probably the
most famous case. The argument here for the sophistical view is rather
reminiscent of Meno’s paradox, which we looked at last time. It goes like this:
either I know something or I don’t. If I know about it, then I won’t make a
mistake about it, thanks to my knowledge; but if I don’t know about it, then I
can’t think about it, so I won’t be able to make a mistake then either. In
other words, I’ll have either perfect knowledge of each thing, or no knowledge
of it at all, and in neither case will I get things wrong. So, it’s impossible
to make a mistake, to believe anything false.
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“As with Meno’s paradox, it looks like the way
out is to say that there is some middle ground, where I know or grasp something
well enough to make a mistake about it, but not so well that I am immune to
error. Socrates presents two analogies to suggest how this could work. First,
he says, imagine that your memory is like a wax tablet - the kind they used to
write on in ancient Greece. When you perceive something, that’s like a stamp
making an impression in the wax of your mind. Some people have tough, dirty wax
and are slow on the uptake; others have fluid wax and get impressions quickly,
but lose them just as fast. Others have wax which is ideally suited: easily
stamped, but also good at holding the impressions. Quite a nice image of how
memory works, really. Ok, so now for false judgment: that would happen when
there is a mismatch between something you perceive and an existing impression
in the wax of your memory. For instance, I think I am watching a silent film
starring Buster Keaton, but actually I’m confused: that lovable fellow on the
screen is in fact Charlie Chaplin, and I’m matching the visual image to the
wrong stamped impression in my wax tablet. As Socrates says, it’s like putting
your right foot into your left shoe.
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| Theaetetus |
“Notice that this solves the sophistical
dilemma: I can make a mistake about something because in a way I know it, and
in a way I don’t. I know who Buster Keaton is, because I must have got
acquainted with him to have an impression of him in my memory. But this doesn’t
guarantee that I’ll be error-free in identifying people as Buster Keaton. This
is a compelling analogy, and for once the proposal isn’t exactly rejected in
the dialogue. Rather, the characters realize that even if it works for cases of
mistaken identity in perception, there are many cases of false judgment where
it will not help. For instance, what is going on when I add seven and five and
get eleven? There’s nothing here about impressions being made on our memory by
perception, and yet I’ve still made a mistake. So Socrates produces another
image in place of the wax tablet. Imagine, he says, that your soul is like an
aviary, a birdcage, with lots of birds flying around in it, each of which
represents a piece of knowledge. Whenever you’ve learned something, you’ve
acquired a bird and put it into your aviary. What happens when you add five to
seven and get eleven is that you reach into your aviary and pull out the eleven
bird instead of the twelve bird. Again, your knowledge of eleven actually enables you to make the
mistake, the way your knowledge of Buster Keaton enabled you to mistake Charlie
Chaplin for him.
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“But Socrates and Theaetetus decide that this
model too is problematic. It means that when you make a mistake, it is
precisely by virtue of knowing that you get things wrong. It is, paradoxically,
because of your knowledge of eleven that you are able to have a false belief
about five plus seven. The indefatigable Theaetetus has another suggestion,
though: what if your aviary contains birds representing ignorance, as well as
birds representing knowledge? Then when you make a mistake you’ve just grabbed
the wrong kind of bird. But that ruins the whole point, which was to explain
how we can know something just enough to make a mistake about it, without
knowing it so well that we are immune to error.
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“So where does all that leave us? Right back
where we started: without a general account of false belief, but still thinking
that maybe knowledge is the same thing as true belief. Ah, but it isn’t, says
Socrates. Just consider the case of a jury: they might be persuaded by some
fancy lawyer that a certain man is innocent of a crime. And the man really is innocent. But we
wouldn’t say that the jury knows, since they only believe this because the lawyer was
slick enough to persuade them. Thus they have a true belief, but not knowledge.
So much for that definition. Yet Theaetetus still feels - and today’s
epistemologists tend to agree - that knowledge must have something to do with true belief.
Maybe knowledge is true belief plus something else as well... something the
jurors are lacking, but which you would have if you were, say, an eye-witness
at the murder and know that the accused man is innocent.
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“It’s no easy task to say what that would be. As
I say, modern-day epistemologists are still struggling with the question of how
knowledge relates to true belief. In so doing, they are taking up a challenge
first thrown down here in the Theaetetus. For the rest of the
dialogue, Socrates and Theaetetus explore the possibility that some kind of
“rational account” - a logos, that favorite word of
Heraclitus - is what you’d need to add to true belief to render it into
knowledge. As we expect by now, they don’t manage to make this work, and yet we
do learn a bit more about knowledge, in particular how it does and does not
relate to giving an account of yourself when you believe something. This last
part of the dialogue is sufficiently complicated that giving an account of it
would be no easy matter, and I’m just about out of time anyway. So I’ll close
there for now. But Plato’s attitude towards belief and knowledge will continue
to take center stage in the next few episodes. In two weeks, I’ll finally be
looking at Plato’s theory of Forms, and trying to discover whether postulating
Forms could help us understand what knowledge is. But next time, we’ll have a
return appearance by my colleague MM McCabe, who will chat with me about
Plato’s views on knowledge. So don’t make the mistake of missing next week’s
episode of the History of Philosophy, without any gaps.”’
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James P. Morse, Reality and the Mind
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